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I'll break from the pack a bit here...certain environmental factors I would be comfortable with something lower end of penetration say 10.5-12" Organic Gel Range instead of the 13-14 1/2"...

Interesting that Ol' Johnny Boy of ASP just had two light primer strikes with 9mm 115 fmj in a frigging HK....now he didn't say they were magtech....but they were probably magtech... Now I like S&B...

OK I just read his nice write up.

But still, he also used to make a 85 gr JHp that did great, but recently some online were actually 60 gr that may be too light and I don't see him selling that...

Don't hate too hard...

But if 4 legged animal defense is a concern I'd want 38 or up..

So if .32MAG why would someone want a Wadcutter over Federal's JHP that does expand perfect 2 layer denim,...

Hadn't seen it but pretty cool though pricy

Someone's making a bigger than a regular pistol thing.....

Anything cool being watched? Sub 400 if possible lol

When I first clicked the links on my cell no specs came up not even caliber on the Viper.

I do like the way the Viper 3" looks just 1.1 ounce lighter than King Cobra by having a half lug. I'd...

Which gun is comsidered safe? When I take my Baby Browning down, the striker and sear have very good almost total interface, my thinking is it probably would slip off, I thought too with the little...

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around 800 fps I am going to say no from a 158 xtp. The only bullet that diameter that will expand that low I can think of is old HST load, and maybe, maybe some BB very soft swclhp. UW had a...

Winchester 2010 manufacturer data 4-Layer Denim
125 gr Super-X JHP 1450 fps 584 ME 12.3" Pen .54 Exp
158 gr Super-X JHP 1235 fps 535 17.7 .48 exp

Of note both there 125+p and 158+p .38 loads...

Part III. FBI Ammunition Tests Data:

.357 Magnum 125 grain Remington Golden Saber JHP, 2/9/93:

Test Gun Barrel Length Velocity
Bare Gelatin

Clothed Gelatin
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Winchester Silvertip .357 Man 145 Grain Data over the ages
FBI
1989 OVERALL OG 8 EVENTS AVGs
3" Smith M13 1166 fps 438 ME 13.76" Pen .499 Exp 82.5% Pass (of the 40 rounds I believe to get at least...

OK Hairsplitting data time boys

.357 154 gr HST Real World Chronos from various sources on the nets
2" 1112 fps 423 ME a different 2" different day 1115 fps 425 ME
4" Smith 1255 fps 538 ME
4.2"...

I am personally not that impressed by Critical Duty for Terminal Ballistics for In Gun, though as a reload is fine. The recoil is mild...velocity may be slower than you expect as well....
In...

Will this be videotaped?

Can you chrono them? Curious if new Silvertip is a good bit slower than old.

So you will get really really good vs really good lol starting to split hairs
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Don't 158 xtps need 1150-1200 fps to expand?

There you go, HST is the better modern bullet so order some and see how it goes

I trust federals QC and primers more than modern day winchester. Not sure if modern is as fast as old and old data.
Hst will do better vs barriers I am sure and animal defense

Hst has stout...

Current data I gave vs old Vista le data?
You can belive the data I gave

Or tested yourself Organic 4 layer?
On cell now so not easy to compare

And I'll have to look up Winchesters data on...

Pending BS, I believe we have a few days, through FFL's of course. I have a couple things that simply don't fit my hands well or fill roles for me that legitimately I would like to sell or trade and...

Now that is interesting... thanks
so I looked up loaded weights one thread saying 9mm 8+1 124 is 34 oz...
.40 someone said 38.5 7+1 180 gr is 38.5...

Was hoping it hit my typical max of 35ish...

Yes I just mentioned in my HSC ortgies thread I'm wanting one. I already bought the manual.

This Mosel brought back in .357 and 9mm would fill the Ruger void where Colt Kimber & Rossi all have...

hmmm Thanks...
I think it's DAK no decocker.

Good looking out.

3% fee no usps money order option too...

In 380 9 corto short 9x17 Is Recoil on a 1934 Beretta less than the p230 and PPs?