The big 10.5"-12.5" general purpose pistol/SBR thread

[Seven_Sicks_Two]

You are absolutely onto something. I was thinking a .358 Grendel (name??)

That name is way too logical for a wildcat. You’ve gotta go with something more esoteric - it’s gotta have a hyphen, maybe an acronym, or obscure namesake.

Something like “.358-6.5 Harrison SPC”.

[Caballoflaco]

I’m kicking around if an intermediate-9 might be a fun and useful “Ranch Rifle” for here in the swampy or piney south.

My first centerfire rifle was a long-since-stolen 7600 in .35 Whelen, and my most recent is a 16” 9mm AR-RDB. I always wanted, but never tried, loading .357 Magnum bullets into Whelen cases for light loads.

It looks like an upcoming project will be a SBR in x39 boltface AK, and I wonder about 6.5 Grendel necked to 9mm? I’ve got guns I can buy ammo by the case for, this would also be rifle-as-handloading-excuse. Ranges really aren’t that long out here and the toughest critters are the hogs.

I loved the power of the Whelen back in the day, and I’ve come to realize that a part of that was the terminal ballistics of old-school cup-and-core at close range on the higher impact speed of their design parameters. What happens with either the round nose or pointer 180-225grain stuff, out what’ll necessarily be closer to, uhhhh, 30-30/9mm wildcat out of a 13.7-10” barrel? Would it still be nasty out to 100m? Or maybe as far as 250m range? With .357 Magnum bonded pistol bullets, just how hard and fast could they be pushed?

I wouldn’t be unhappy with 30 Gremlin, instead. Light to midweight 30-cal rifle bullets match up weight was pretty close to .357 pistol bullets, and I guess(?) that 300 BLK popularity has given us a deep enough selection of rifle bullets with terminal performed towards lower velocities than -06 or 308. Or maybe jump all the way smallbore to the 6ARC. I don’t want a bunch of rifles, I want just few that I really like. Any way of it, I’ll get my jollies of designing and making ammo for the gun.

Is this .35 Grendel an idea with real terminal ballistics potential, or is this just riggings of heartstrings for 9mm rifles?

Is there a reason .350 legend isn’t on your radar for this?

[Biggy]

For 0 to 400 yds I still like my 14.5" inch barreled upper with the Kahles 1-6X with the G4B reticle. I recently added an ACRO P2 at 12 o'clock, and in it's role it works just fine *for me*.

https://www.westernshooter.com/2014/...24-sm1-review/

14.5", 12.5", 11.5" uppers

[HeavyDuty]

We talked about stubby entry stocks on LAW folders in this thread a few years back, and RRA is finally doing them again. Scalpers were getting in excess of $200 for beat up ones, now you can get a new one for under $100 shipped. Just a FYI.

https://www.rockriverarms.com/index....tegory_ID=1377

[GyroF-16]

We talked about stubby entry stocks on LAW folders in this thread a few years back, and RRA is finally doing them again. Scalpers were getting in excess of $200 for beat up ones, now you can get a new one for under $100 shipped. Just a FYI.

https://www.rockriverarms.com/index....tegory_ID=1377

A. - shows “TEMPORARILY BACKORDERED”
B. - what makes this superior to a Magpul short adjustable stock with a LAW folder? Shorter LOP? (No dimensions provided).

Not being argumentative- just really wondering what made / makes this so desirable?

[HeavyDuty]

A. - shows “TEMPORARILY BACKORDERED”
B. - what makes this superior to a Magpul short adjustable stock with a LAW folder? Shorter LOP? (No dimensions provided).

Not being argumentative- just really wondering what made / makes this so desirable?

It took about four weeks for them to ship mine, so not too bad. IIRC it’s an 8” stock and I’m told it is slightly longer than an A1 when installed on a LAW folder. I believe the length of the RE is the same as a carbine and uses the same springs and buffers.

Just a different stock option that was unavailable for a long time. I remember them being used a lot ‘94-‘04 when fixed CAR stocks sucked, that’s when I developed my liking of them - but I never owned one.

[rob_s]

A. - shows “TEMPORARILY BACKORDERED”
B. - what makes this superior to a Magpul short adjustable stock with a LAW folder? Shorter LOP? (No dimensions provided).

Not being argumentative- just really wondering what made / makes this so desirable?

Just trying to keep up here.

Is this the one you mean?
https://magpul.com/moe-sl-m-carbine-stock-mil-spec.html

[GyroF-16]

Just trying to keep up here.

Is this the one you mean?
https://magpul.com/moe-sl-m-carbine-stock-mil-spec.html

Yes, or the similar MOE SL or MOE SL-K

[HeavyDuty]

Just trying to keep up here.

Is this the one you mean?
https://magpul.com/moe-sl-m-carbine-stock-mil-spec.html

I currently have one of those with a LAW folder on a SBR - I’ll do side by side pics once the RRA one is here.

The RRA is supposedly much lighter than a Sully.

[HeavyDuty]

Here it is compared to a MOE SL-K:



My worry is that this will be an AR seed - A1 upper, 10.5”, corncob…