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Thread: Good videos on teaching the draw stroke/press out

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigS View Post
    Could one of you define an 'index draw' please?
    An index draw is when you look at the specific spot you want to shoot, and draw the gun in the most direct, linear, and efficient motion to bring the sights to that spot. Generally, the shooter is not looking for the sights until the sights are intersecting with the visual spot they are looking at.

    An L shaped draw is when you draw the gun up to your upper chest, then start presenting it forward toward the target. Often (but not always) on an L shaped draw, the shooter is trying to visually pick up the sights while the gun is moving from the upper chest position out to the target.

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    I like to break it into two parts:
    1. Automatic sight alignment. Draw and sights are aligned or dot is in the middle of the window.
    2. Automatic point of aim. Sights or dot appear where you look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    I like to break it into two parts:
    1. Automatic sight alignment. Draw and sights are aligned or dot is in the middle of the window.
    2. Automatic point of aim. Sights or dot appear where you look.
    If you were so inclined, could you expand a bit on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    I like to break it into two parts:
    1. Automatic sight alignment. Draw and sights are aligned or dot is in the middle of the window.
    2. Automatic point of aim. Sights or dot appear where you look.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S View Post
    If you were so inclined, could you expand a bit on this?
    As @Gio posted, developing an "index" allows the shooter to look at a spot, draw, and have the sights/optic aimed at that spot.

    This requires two skills:

    1) Automatic sight alignment. Can the shooter extend the gun from high ready and have the dot appear in the center of the window 99.9% of the time? If a shooter "loses the dot" they don't have this skill well developed. In my experience, that requires many 1000's of reps just on this. Next, is establishing that index from other positions, including from the draw.

    A more difficult skill is 2) automatic point of aim. The shooter simply looks at a spot, and can extend, draw, transition, turn, or move and have the dot appear in the middle of the window and on target.
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